Climbing roses?
Question:hi all
just wanted to ask about whether or not i would have any hope of growing climbing roses (any) in a shady area... it does get limited morning sun. otherwise could anyone tell me of a CLIMBING plant that might? we have a really ugly house front and i would really like to spruce it up a bit somehow! i thought climbing roses would be pretty (so i would like something that is flowering) but i know they like more than a little sun. look forward to your answers and thank you
Answers:
roses grow there best in full sun ( 6 to 8 hours), but morning sun is good enough! if they get alot of shade just watch ur watering habits... limit it to once a week or so! Being in the shade and getting wet will promote blackspot and attack from bugs, but it can be done! It will cause fewer blooms too, but don't let all this stop u from putting them there! get some bayeradvanced all in one rose and flower care to combat these problems before they get a chance to develop!
More info on roses!
Planting roses is one of the first activities of the gardening year. Planting early is important as roses need to have their roots well established. Often the tops will begin to grow before the roots have grown into their new location. Be prepared to water and watch them carefully through their first spring.
Roses Need-
At least six hours of sunlight a day
Soil that drains well
Good air circulation
To avoid hard freezes
When to Plant-
Bare-root roses: Late winter is the best time plant bare-root roses.
Container-grown roses: Early spring is the best time to set out plants grown in nursery containers (vs. bare-root, packaged types). Avoid summer planting unless you are willing to water every 1 to 2 days in hot weather.
How to Handle a Rose Before Planting-
Soak the roots of a bare-root rose in a bucket of water for at least an hour or two. Overnight is okay, but no longer.
Make sure the soil and roots of a container-grown rose are moist. If the soil is dry, water and let drain an hour or two before planting. Never plant a dry root ball. It is hard to re-wet.
If you can't plant your rose right away because the soil is not workable (too wet or frozen), store the plant in a cool place away from the wind, and keep the roots moist. A basement or garage is ideal. Or you can dig a small trench in a shady spot of your garden, lay the rose down at a thirty-degree angle, cover the roots with moistened soil, and cover the top with a layer of hay.
Preparing the Soil for Roses-
Thoroughly mix soil amendments such as compost, peat moss, or rose planting mix in the planting bed. If you can't amend the entire bed, amend in a circle of 3 to 4 feet for each rose.
In spring, protect newly planted roses from insects by applying Bayer Advanced 2-in-1 Systemic Rose & Flower Care Granules to the soil. This guards against aphids, mites, and certain other insects that like new growth.
Look For This Information on the Rose Package
Plant Spacing: A five-foot spacing works well for hybrid teas. Larger plants will need more room. Antique roses vary tremendously in size and form.
Follow planting directions on the rose label. Avoid planting too deeply. In the South, the crown of grafted plants should be about 2 inches above the soil line, even if the package doesnt say so. Buried crowns invite disease in the South. The first lateral roots should be just at the soil surface. Set the plant in the hole so that the first roots are just below the surface.
When the hole is filled to about an inch from the top, water thoroughly. This will eliminate any air pockets that might be around the roots. Wait for the water to drain. Then, finish filling the hole. With any remaining soil, make a rim around the edge of the hole so that water will funnel towards the roots.
Watering Roses-
Water new plants regularly at first, applying about 1 inch per week. Drip irrigation is best to water slowly, thoroughly, and deeply without wetting foliage. Water less in winter.
Protecting Roses Against Insects
If you have a problem with pests such as Japanese beetles, mites, aphids, and other pests that often reappear, you may protect roses by applying Bayer Advanced 2-in-1 Systemic Rose & Flower Care Granules. The best time to apply is just before the pests normally appear. Bayer Advanced 2-in-1 Systemic Rose & Flower Care Granules continues to protect for up to 6 weeks after applying. Use this preventative strategy to help prevent damage on roses and other flowers.
Mulch-
Mulch well with bark, compost, or pine straw.
Whether or not climbing roses would thrive or just survive in semi-shade will depend on where you live. Your best bet is to contact your State University Extension Service for assistance. Many of the Extension Service Offices also support a Master Gardener Program. These are volunteers who have graduated from a gardening course of about 80 hours. These volunteers are avid home gardeners and will be able to give you experienced, hands on advice about plants that do well in your area. Another choice is to visit local nurseries and ask for suggestions (Visit more than 1 if possible). There will, likely, also be garden clubs, rose societies, etc. in your area. If the clubs aren't listed in the yellow pages of your phone directory, check with your Chamber of Commerce and area nurseries, real estate agencies and granges. There is a National Garden Club that has member clubs throughout the USA. Find them at <www.gardenclub.org>. There is also a National Gardening Association at <assoc.garden.org>. There are also statewide gardening federations in many states. Use one or all of these resources for assistance - they'll only cost you your time. The key to success is proper planning - for that you need quality information. Don't rush into this project. There's plenty of growing season remaining to get your new plants established. Your state's Extension Service web site can be found by using a web search engine - I'm sorry I can't be more specific about the sites, but each State University seems to have its own idea of how the URL is listed.
I see you have received wonderful info on rose growing but no actual rose names. I also have a shady garden. I have a 3 year old New Dawn climbing rose on a 8 foot solid cedar wall. The rose is on the northwestern side of the fence but is blocked somewhat by my house. It gets mid-day sun (North Georgia, USA) and some dappled sun throughout the day. It blooms beautifully (once a year for me) and I have very little problems with black spot, mildew or pests. I do not use any non-organic products in the garden and I have never had to do anything to this rose other than prune, tie-in, fertilize and water when no regular rain. Be advised that 'New Dawn' is a "rampant grower" and must be tied to her support regularly during the growing season. In 3 years, my rose has covered about 25 feet of the fence. Also, she is very thorny!
I have also tried the antique rose, 'Zephrine Drouhin', which smells wonderful and is thornless -- but has been nothing but problems for me. She is also planted along the cedar wall but is constantly plagued by blackspot and doesn't bloom well at all. I read after planting that this rose should never be planted on a wall (duh..) and must have excellent air circulation as it is very prone to blackspot and mildew. I believe she will be exiting the garden in the fall.
There are a few other roses that are listed as shade tolerant that may work better for your location.
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