How do i install a ceiling fan to a light switch?
Question:there is no ceiling fan originally so i have to put a whole new wire in and connect it to the switch but the wire i have to use have 4 wires red black(hot) white and the ground wire(bare) but it is an older house so there is no ground wire already attached to the switch but there is on the ceiling fan so when i hook the fan up to the wires coming out of the wall already it works but not when i hook it up to the wire i put in
Answers:
Check the yellow pages for an electrician.
What?
Here is what someone told me here when I was doing new plugs in the walls...I would like to do the same thing you are doing, but would probably have an electrician come in for that part...
Electrical Wires
What you're describing sounds like the plug may be connected to a wall switch, check the wall switches and see if the outlet is just turned off. I say this because usually a Red wire means there's a tertiary circuit. Usually White wires are the Common, and the Black lines are the HOT. Usually the white wires go to the silver screws and the HOT black wires go to the Brass screws, the red wire should go to the Brass side, but not if there's a black wire already there. If there's a wall switch, the black wire would go to there and a red one from the wall switch to the plug. All would then return on the Common White wires.
You have a couple of options.
The simplist: Connect the switched leg to both of the colored conductors of the new fan/light, the white to the common. This will control the on/off function of the fixture from the wall switch. The fan speed and direction of rotation are then controled by the fixture switch and pull chain, as well as the light.
2nd: Install a remote fan/light controler per the inclosed in structions.
3rd: Identify the hot pair and shut off the breaker.
You only need a 2 conductor w/grnd to accomplish this task.
However, since you already have a 3/grnd, we'll use that.
Eliminate the existing 2 conductor from the light fixture box to the switch box at both ends and replace with the 3/grnd. At the the fixture box, if the hot pair IS NOT metallic wraped, chances are that there is not a ground available, and the same applies at the switch box. If either are, bond the grnd from the 3/grnd to both boxes, leaving a pigtail.
At the fixture box connect the black from the hot pair to the white of the 3/grnd, connect the red and black from the 3/grnd to the 2 colored fixture conductors, connect the white from the fixture to the white of the hot pair, connect the grnd from the fixture to the bonded pigtail.
At the switch box, depending upon the configuration of switch/s you are using, individual or stacked, connect the white to the hot terminal of the switch/s and the colored conductors to the other terminals of the switch/s.
Turn the breaker back on.
it sounds like if the wire you stated is comeing from the switch box it is prob a 14/3 it has a black, red, white. and a bear ground look in the switch box sounds like a old 3 way switch or they could have used it as 2 switch legs ether way use the black as hot connect to the black on the fan if the fan has a light kit should be a blue wire you can connect the light kit wire to the fan hot as one switch will control both the fan and light. or if the wall box has two switches you can use the black wire as fan and the red as light one will go to one switch and the other will connect to the other switch.As for the ground the 14/3 should have a bare ground wire and it will connect to the ground on the fan
install a fan rated pancake box in a 4" round size directly to a joist with 3" wood screws.
Put in your 3 wire romex.
Connect the red to the blue
the black to the black
the bare to the greens
and the white to the whites
in the switch wire nut the whites together, put in a stack switch if it is a single box with the power to the side that has the jumper and the red and black to the two screws on the other side...
say to hell with the ground wire since it won't do any good anyways...
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