Can anybody help with our wiring problem, PLEASE!?
Question:My husband has been trying to change the ceiling rose and wire to the light bulb. He wired it in, exactly as the other one, as he thought, but now none of the upstairs lights will come on. Does anyone have an idea of what he may have done wrong? I know we'll probably have to get an electrician in, next time we will.
Answers:
its the permantly live red wires. Normally there are 3 red wired in the center part of the rose. Using a tester find the red wires that are always live when the switch is turned off!..Good luck
Did he turn the lights off at the junction box and has forgotten to turn them on again? It's easily done.
it seems that you may have inadvertently blown a breaker if this is a multiple fixture failure. check and let me know. then we can go from there.
Tell him to be very careful please. I hope he is using properly insulated tools and has taken all other safety precaution.
If you have a fusebox for different areas in the house.. has he flicked the switch back up for that area?
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this may sound stupid but have you checked the fuses prob one has gone if all the upstairs lights r not working
sounds like hes connected the loop wire into switch wire, which would cut power off to the other lights .
I have been an electrician for over 20 years and been called out on this type of problem many times. Most likely, one of the connection in either the neutral side or the hot side became undone. If your husband looks in the box he will see that all of the white wires are tied together with one wire coming out to hook to the light. What he needs to do is make sure the wires are connected together. It is best to actually remove the wire nut and replace it with a new one. if the white side didn't fix the problem then I would look at the hot side doing the same as the white. Also resetting all the breakers just in case he grounded the hot side. but don't by sight alone but actually shut them off then back on because on old breakers they will trip and not indicate it.
without being there to see the setup it is hard for me to do or recommend anything but the obvious, did a circuit breaker or fuse trip at the electrical panel?...check that first and if at that point you have nothing, make sure all wires at the unit he worked on are making a good connection , may have a loose wire nut on one of the bundles of wires..after that its electrician time...wish i could be of more help
the black is the live,and the reds stay together to make the loop,one of the blacks is the return from the switch
If he's reasonably sure that he's not left any 'spare' or loose wires in the fitting that he has changed then he's probably:
connected the feed to the remaining lights from the 'on/off' wire rather than the 'always on' wire. Will upstairs lights work with the 'new fitting' turned on?
Pauline
SOUNDS LIKE LOOSE CONNECTION ON THE NEUTRAL SIDE, THATS THE BLACK WIRE OR BLUE IF ITS NEW CABLING, OR COULD BE LOOSE CONNECTION ON THE LOOP FEED(PERMANENT LIVE) WHICH IS THE CENTRE CONNECTION IN THE ROSE COULD BE 2 OR 3 WIRES AND THEY ARE RED OR BROWN IF NEW CABLING , ALSO CHECK FUSE BOARD IF BREAKER HAS TRIPPED SOMETIMES THEY DONT JUST PUSH UP YOU NEED TO PULL IT DOWN FIRST AND THEN PUSH BACK UP .
Black wire is Hot
White is Netural
Copper is ground
Match up the colors if that don't work then go from there
I am not being a smart ***. Alot of people don't know
In the UK we use what is called a line loop system. Sounds complicated it isn't. I will explain it simply.
When your husband took the light down he would have found 3 cables, they will be either grey on the outside or white.
Inside these cable are 3 wires, red, black, and just copper. That is usually covered in green and yellow sleeving. Put these together.
Next the 3 reds go together. The blacks have to be separated because one of the blacks is actually the live return from the switch. Good electricians who didn't skimp on costs would have bought the correct cable with 2 reds.
There may have been some tape on a black wire, this would indicate the return from the switch. This goes on it own. To test which black is a live you will have to test it with the power on with a tester. Separate all 3 black wires, put tester across two, get a reading you have found the live one. Isolate it.
You connect one wire from the ceiling light to this.
The other 2 blacks go together and the other wire from the light goes in with these.
Now all the lights should be working. If your house is brand new, the colours in the cables may be different.
Red = Brown. Black = Blue. Copper/green and yellow sleeve stay same.
For a simple explaination of how it should look when wired up correctly, have a look at this:
http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/lig...
Follow these steps and you should be alright.
I had a similar problem and an electrician cured it in just over three seconds, it's just a matter of getting the correct wire connected.
I was once doing a job standing on some steps with my hands in intimate contact with the light wiring. I had switched off at the wall switch and the main switch. Suddenly there came a voice singing quite loudly making me think my wife had switched things on again and I could hear the radio. I froze and then with great care I slowly moved away from the bare wires to find my wife was in one of her happy moods and she was doing the singing.
I'm told we should all do something every day to make our hearts jump... I picked up a months worth that day... good luck.
im reading these answers thinking "wow i hope this person doesnt follow these advisors.
dont get me wrong some of these answerers are right, but most of them are giving you shots in the dark and electricity is nothing to play with. please just call the electrician and explain to him exactly what happened. I guarantee he will fix it and it WILL ONLY COST YOU ARROUND 85-100 BUCKS. Please take me seriously. Electricity isnt for everyone to mess with.
THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE.
Sounds like you either lost a positive or neutral feed to the lights. Depending on how old your house is and how it was wired they may have used that electrical box under your new fixture to feed through and one of those 2 wires came loose or isnt twisted and wire nutted tight enough to make contact. I would first undo the wires he rewired ans rewire them tightly to make sure they are all making contact.
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